City of Milwaukee - File #: 150477

• File #: 150477
• Version: 0
• Type: Resolution
• Status: Passed
• File created: 7/17/2015
• In control: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
• Final action: 10/19/2015
• Title: Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the construction of a new house at 2115 E. Lafayette Place in the North Point South Historic District for David Quadracci.
• Sponsors: THE CHAIR

Date	Ver.	Action By	Action	Result	Tally
10/19/2015	0	HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION	ADOPTED; Minutes note: Ms. Hatala corrected herself that the windows were approved previously. Brian Woodman - Deep River Partners The retaining wall was approved as part of the previous file. The applicant is proposing either a copper standing-seam roof or a copper tile roof and would like permission for both and they would choose which one at a later date. The staff recommends either copper roof. The copper would be allowed to patina naturally. Approval is subject to conditions by staff.	Pass	6:0
9/15/2015	0	HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION	HELD IN COMMITTEE; Minutes note: Ms. Hatala provided a revised view of the proposed changes. Applicant proposes metal clad wood windows, which the Commission typically opposes. Richard Chair and Brian Widderman - Deep River Partners - architects The Commission reviewed the proposed windows product by product. The applicant brought more window samples as well as he met with Ms. Hatala and Mr. Jarosz with window samples. The proposed windows are the highest quality windows that the applicant can get on the market. This building is a new building, not a historic house, although it is in an historic district. The warranty on the windows is 30 years. Mr. Jarosz hopes that this product will last long-term. Mr. WIlliams said that Marvin windows are top of the market, so the quality expectations should be met. Ms. Opgenorth moved, seconded by Mr. Williams, for approval of the windows. As regards the roof, the applicant is proposing synthetic materials, rather than slate. Ms. Hatala visited a fire engine company with these materials that were used in 1998 and it has issues of cupping and rolling. A test case from 1999 resulted in discoloration and cupping of individual pieces. The applicant is proposing a plastic product for the roof. Mr. Williams noted that the slate isn't the only required product - the applicant has cheaper options that can be used, but the plastic materials have shown failure on different buildings. The product carries a lifetime warranty and the company is well-known, per the architect. Mr. Jarosz also thought the feds would also support just using a good-quality slate roof, rather than a plastic slate roof. Mr. Jarosz would prefer not to fake people out with plastic shingles and just use asphalt. The architect really likes the plastic slate. Mr. Jarosz is also concerned with how it will wear and change in terms of color. Mr. Williams is inclined to approve the plastic slate roof. David Qudracci - 2105 E. Lafayette - he will move into the new house so if the roof product isn't a good one, he'll be the one to suffer with it. With his former house he had a lot of problems with an asphalt roof. Ald. Bauman doesn't support the use of plastic slate as he thinks that, if approved, no-one will ever install a new slate roof. Mr. Doerrfeld didn't support the use of plastic slate and noted that these roofs do require maintenance. Mr. Williams isn't opposed because the average person won't be able to tell this isn't real slate. He doesn't think the durability of the product falls under jurisdiction of the Commission. Mr. Williams moved for approval of the plastic slate roof, there were no seconds. Mr. WIlliams moved for approval of the material under the condition it not be intended to simulate slate. There were no seconds. Ms. Opgenorth moved to table this issue, seconded by Mr. Williams. There were no objections. Mr. Williams moved, seconded by Mr. Jarosz, to approve the revised elevations as submitted. There were no objections. The Commission reviewed the proposed cast stone product that would be used for sills and on the walls of the house. Mr. Williams moved approval of hte cast stone product, seconded by Mr. Jarosz, for new construction. There were no objections. Ms. Hatala again stressed preserving or moving the wrought iron fence.	Pass	5:0
8/10/2015	0	HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION	HELD IN COMMITTEE; Minutes note: Ms. Hatala said there had been a house built at this site in the late 1890s and it was demolished by the county park system in 1959. The Commission did approve building of a house in 2005, but it was never built. There are a lot of traditional elements planned for the house with recesses and projections and also decorative iron raiilings. Ms. Hatala mentioned against saving the wrought iron fence in some manner. The building must meet the standards for North Point South (contained in the file), but he is also using new materials. This new building fits in scale with its neighbors. Staff recommends approval, with modification of materials and additional section drawings for some of the exterior, such as for specific windows and the design of the railings. Ms. Hatala again mentioned the wrought iron fence. It is anticipated that construction will start next year. Mr. Williams questioned if the Commission considered materials or aesthetics. Mr. Jarosz echoed Mr. WIlliams's concerns about the large brick expanse in the front under the window where there is a closet in the interior. He also concerns about the cast stone used on the side. Mr. WIlliams moved to grant broad approval of the design, but to return to the Commission for the stone approval and windows and the north elevation, if changed, also come before the Commission again. Ms. Clendenenon-Acosta would like to see more details on the slate roof and Ms. Pieper Eisenbrown was concerned with the retaining wall at the bottom of the driveway. The architect tends to have plants integrated as part of that retaining wall. Seconded by Mr. Jarosz. There were no objections.	Pass	5:0
7/17/2015	0	COMMON COUNCIL	ASSIGNED TO

Number

150477

Version

ORIGINAL

Reference

Sponsor

THE CHAIR

Title

Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the construction of a new house at 2115 E. Lafayette Place in the North Point South Historic District for David Quadracci.

Requestor

Drafter

CC-CC

Carlen Hatala

7/17/15