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Meeting Name: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Agenda status: Final
Meeting date/time: 10/19/2015 3:00 PM Minutes status: Final  
Meeting location: City Hall, Room 301-B
Published agenda: Agenda Agenda Published minutes: Minutes Minutes  
Meeting video: eComment: Not available  
Attachments: PowerPoint Presentation
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   1. Review and approval of the minutes from the September 15th and 28th meetings.

Minutes note: Mr. Jarozs moved, seconded by Ms. Pieper Eisenbrown for approval of the minutes of the Sept. 15th meeting. There were no objections. Ms. Piper Eisenbrown moved, seconded by Mr. Jarozs, for approval of the minutes of the Sept. 28th meeting. There were no objections.
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150208 02.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the construction of a new rooftop structure at 1023 North Old World Third Street in the Old World Third Street Historic District for Susanne Mayer.

Minutes note: The applicant was before the commission earlier for approval of the roof structure. What was approved was found not to be feasible due to Wisconsin winters. The current proposal is to set the structure back 33 feet, which means it will be minimally visible from the street. The height is also lower at 18 feet than was previously approved. Staff reviewed this and feels that the structure has a very industrial quality to it and, although minimally visible, it is appropriate to the building. Staff recommends approval. Tom Van Brown - 1905 S. 1st St. - the architect
ADOPTEDPass4:0 Action details Not available
150370 03.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the removal of a slate roof and re-roofing with asphalt shingles at 2411 N. Sherman Blvd. in the North Sherman Blvd. Historic District for Judy Maher.

Minutes note: The Commission reviewed this project on July 14th and asked the applicant to return with information on roofing costs. Water is getting into the house from under the roof. Ms. Maher did look at the cost differential - asphalt costs $300 per square foot and slate costs $600-$800 per square foot. It would cost approximately $95,000 to install slate on this roof. She would still like to use asphalt shingles. Approval subject to conditions set by staff for downspouts and gutters.
ADOPTEDPass6:0 Action details Not available
150476 04.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the construction of a below grade garage at 2105 E. Lafayette Place in the North Point South Historic District for David Quadracci.

Minutes note: This project was before the Commission in August. The current proposal for the retaining wall is Waukesha bluff from Halquist stone. Staff recommends approval and this would also be used on the shared drive as well. The other wall will be real lannon stone
ADOPTEDPass6:0 Action details Not available
150477 05.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the construction of a new house at 2115 E. Lafayette Place in the North Point South Historic District for David Quadracci.

Minutes note: Ms. Hatala corrected herself that the windows were approved previously. Brian Woodman - Deep River Partners The retaining wall was approved as part of the previous file. The applicant is proposing either a copper standing-seam roof or a copper tile roof and would like permission for both and they would choose which one at a later date. The staff recommends either copper roof. The copper would be allowed to patina naturally. Approval is subject to conditions by staff.
ADOPTEDPass6:0 Action details Not available
150581 06.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the restoration of the windows, the demolition of a greenhouse and the construction of a new connector at Albrecht Hall and the library at the former Concordia College Campus, now known as the Wgema Campus, at 3138 W. Kilbourn Avenue in the Concordia Historic District for the Forest County Potawatomi Community.

Minutes note: An agreement was attained with staff prior to today's meeting. Per Mr. Doerrfeld, they have probably saved 40-50% of the window materials.
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150677 07.ResolutionResolution relating to a certificate of appropriateness for the demolition of an existing building and the construction of a new mixed-used building at 1701 N. Humboldt Ave.

Minutes note: There have been some changes since the Sept. 28th meeting - balconies have been recessed even more and the fenestration on the first floor has been altered, some landscaping changes and some window changes, which staff went through as part of its presentation. Brady St. has a great variety of buildings, which offer historic clues on the existing buildings. Staff still recommends disapproval based upon the lack of clues relating to age of construction, its too regular, lacking in variety and too rectalingular. It simply lacks variety to the streetscape, per Mr. Doerrfeld. Mr. Williams said that you will often find a number of homes, such as three, designed by the same architect and having the same "feel" to them. He sees that in the townhomes of this development. Tim Less - Engbert Anderson - architect - tried to make it a building of its time and tie in to Brady St. with materials, textures and motifs. Ald. Kovac leaves the decision to this Commission. One of the major issues was how the corner was emphasized and he thinks the developer has done that fairly well. Mr. Williams thinks this is a very expensive building with a lot of structures on it and he feels comfortable that this building would last a long time and not show its age quickly and it's constructed with high-quality materials. He does think the horizontal beam going across the balconies break down what could be a more interesting massing that is on the other side. Mark Ernst - Engberg Anderson - architect - the Brady Street facade was broken down on the horizontal and also incorporated little detail, but still retain the fact that it's a contemporary building. To Mr. Williams, the scale seems off as it appears to be a short building on wide piers - apparently that's due to the screen and the commissioners need to look at the paper copies for a more accurate view. It could be made more slender, but depth is usually an asset, per Mr. Less. If that is done, the windows would need to get larger to match the smaller piers, per Mr. Ernst. The Chair encouraged staff to mention specific concerns that the architect could address, such as the spandrels and making the piers more slender. Pete Ogden thought staff and the developer were on the same page. Mr. Williams moves approval of this overall as presented, with ongoing modifications with staff, with this being approved on its face. Mr. Jarozs also leans in favor of this due to the prominence of the church across the street with further information to staff on colors and materials, but this is the overall proposal. Mr. Williams moves for approval as well as working with staff and presentation to the Commission of final materials and the palette that will be used. Mr. Jarosz seconded and also mentioned the need for review of lighting, street seating, etc. on both exposed streets. Ms. Pieper Eiseenbrown and Ms. Keating Kahn are both hesitant to approve it with so many conditions put on the staff. Ms. Clendenen-Acosta is also concerned with the number of "maybes" of what could be changed. RECESS 4:15 P.M RECONVENE: 4:24 P.M.
ADOPTEDPass3:2 Action details Not available
150798 08.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the reconstruction of the entrance walkway and seating areas at 2559 N. Wahl Avenue in the North Point North Historic District for Daniel and Marie-Anne Ewig.

Minutes note: Mr. Doerrfeld said that the curent proposal includes a seating area and there is precedent for a front seating area and with the landscaping it will masked from the street. The fireplace in the rear is also appropriate for the district and the property; there is also a proposed fence for the backyard with lattice fencing - they are proposing an eight foot fence, for which they know they need to get a height variance.
ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Video Video
150801 09.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for porch repairs at 2908 W. McKinley Blvd. in the Cold Spring Park Historic District for Brad Thurman.

Minutes note: The applicant is proposing to repair the porch and is requesting permission to install prefabricated vinyl posts. The appearance is similar to concrete and the former posts were square, wood balasters and matched the palasters. The proposed round posts would not match the palasters. Staff recommnds approval for the repair work, but not of the fiberglass columns. Brad Thurman - property owner - his adjacent neighbor and neighbor across the street both have round posts and they will resemble wood once they're primed and painted to match the rest of the house. The fiberglass posts do not come in the square shape. Mr. Jarosz said the challenge is now how to proceed in a cost-effective manner, which the owner can work with staff.
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150799 010.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for paving of a parking slab in the rear of the building at 3216-3218 W. McKinley Blvd. in the Cold Spring Park Historic District for Carl Quindel.

Minutes note: Mr. Doerrfeld said that the applicant is proposing to pave an area 25 feet by 35 feet for a parking area and the parking area will occupy 30% of the existing open space on the lot. Staff says the area is overly expansive for the site and he recommends denial as submitted. Carl Quindel - property owner - is trying to park 4 cars on the lot as the building is a 3-bedroom duplex. Tenants want to park near the property due to safety concerns. Strongbox Milwaukee owns the property. There is at least 8-10 feet of grass between the house and the slab. There are no neighbors nor the local alderman present on this matter. Mr. Williams thinks that a two car garage with a two car slab would be approvable and this is basically 10 feet wider than that would be. Mr. Wllliams suggested making 4 sites that are parking lot size (9 feet by 18 feet) and also using alternative paving materials. The Commission would like to have it pulled in as much as possible and look at possible landscaping features. 36 feet by 18 feet is the size of a traditional parking stall. Mr. Jarosz moved to approve with conditions that it be tightened up, use creative paving, and be less obtrusive, possibly through landscaping and the use of curb stops, etc. Seconded by Mr. Williams.
ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Video Video
150803 011.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a terrace wall at 2604 N. Lake Drive in the North Point North Historic District for Diane Dziengel, and Michael and Cindy Hosale.

Minutes note: Ms. Hatala said that the current proposal is to do a low masonry wall to enclose the terrace area. The top of the terrace wall wil be 40" with a limestone cap to match the stone on the house and it will be 5.5 feet from the sidewalk. The applicant would like to put in expansion joints as well. The applicant has also proposed down lights that will shine on the sidewalk. The work has begun as there was a misunderstanding on the part of the applicant who thought it had already been approved. Rick Donner - attorney for the applicant - contractor TIm Brennan - landscaper - the wall will be as high as the white stone band on the house, so 40" about the sloped up land from the sidewalk. The sidewalk does slope down, which means the wall will go up higher as it runs along the sidewalk. Dawn McCarthy - 2589 N. Lake Dr. - there is nothing similar to this in the area and she thinks it changes the character of the historic neighborhood in that manner and adds to the weight on the property, which already has large garage on it. She is also explicitly opposed to the lights. Ald. Kovac said that neighbors are concerned with how long it is taking to build the garage and this has become a perpetual construction site. He would like to see this work completed. He sees no need for additional lights on the wall. Att. Donner said that any approved wall will be built before the end of the year. Mr. Williams also supported not having the lights and if the wall is not built this year, the land should be re-graded. Mr. Williams moved for approval subject to removal of the lights and work with staff on landscaping. Seconded by Ms. Pieper Eisenbrown. Mr. Williams said staff needs to review this and see the landscaping. Mr. Jarosz would like final review by staff and then come back in two weeks if it's not clear. Ms. McCarthy is also concerned about the open COAs for the work that has never been completed and when it will be completed. Work on the front of the house will be completed in 2016. The wall is subject to frost, which did occur 2-3 days ago. Mr. WIlliams moved to amend his motion that if the wall isn't built within 60 days the COA is void, although the staff approval still stands, with disapproval of the lights. Seconded by Ms. Pieper Eisenbrown.
ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Video Video
150800 012.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the removal of two stained-glass windows at 833 W. Wisconsin Avenue, for St. James Episcopal Church, which is an individually-designated building.

Minutes note: The applicant requested that this be held. No neighbors were present on this matter.
HELD IN COMMITTEEPass5:0 Action details Not available
150802 013.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacement of windows at 2804 W. State Street in the Concordia Historic District for Patricia Miner.

Minutes note: Ms. Hatala said the property owner is an investor owner and she wants to replace the windows with vinyl windows in the dovecote, which did test positive for lead paint. The windows have suffered many years without maintenance. The owner has owned the property since 1996 and no COA was taken out for changing out windows, which was done previously nor one for the satellite dishes. Staff recommends denial. Patricia Miner - owner - brand-new wood windows would be prohibitively expensive and wouldn't be gotten back through tax credits, so she wonders what the Commission wants her to do. Mr. Williams said the first step is to remediate the windows in a safe manner. Ms. Miner will ask to restore the windows under the lead abatement program, which is a temporary fix. Mr. Jarosz would also like to see Ms. Miner get costs estimates to restore these windows, rather than just anecdotal evidence that the work will be too expensive. Staff will work with Ms. Miner on restoration.
PLACED ON FILEPass5:0 Action details Video Video
   14. Approval of 2016 meeting dates.

Minutes note:  Mr. Jarosoz moved for approval of the proposed meeting dates, seconded by Mr. WIlliams. There were no objections.
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   15. Updates and announcements.

Minutes note: The Goldmann's sign is now in North Dakota, although staff was never notified it was being removed and moved out of state. The Pryor Ave. Iron well plaque will probably be placed on a boulder and, if so, will not be before the Commission.
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   16. The following files represent staff approved Certificates of Appropriateness:    Not available
150690 0a.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for new signage at the front lawn of the Schuster Mansion, an individually designated property, at 3209 W. Wells Street for Laura Sue Mosier.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150702 0b.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for repair/replacement of the sidewalk on the east side of the building at 3216-3218 W. McKinley Blvd. in the Cold Spring Park Historic District for Carl Quindel.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150703 0c.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for overall renovation to the buildings at 827-829 E. Brady Street in the Brady Street Historic District for Pepperoni Cannoli LLC.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150767 0d.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacement of a garage door at 2913 N. Lake Drive Unit #2 in the North Lake Drive Historic District for Teri Kolb.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150768 0e.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a dog ear, vertical board privacy fence in the side and rear yards at 2969 N. Sherman Blvd. in the Sherman Blvd. Historic District for Taniqua Hanes.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150769 0f.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the removal of a metal overhead door and the installation of a new concrete wall section and aluminum-frame window at 4001 S. 6th Street, the R. A. Anderson Municipal Building, an individually designated land mark for the City of Milwaukee.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150770 0g.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of PV solar panels on the roof at 1879 N. Cambridge Avenue of the George Knowles, Jr. property, an individually designated historic property, for Susan Ellman.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150791 0h.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for new signage already installed at 1027 W. Historic Mitchell Street in the Mitchell Street Historic District for Yomary Milan-Motijo Reyes.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150792 0i.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for installation of a deck and fence at the rear of the house at 1837 N. 1st Street in the Brewers Hill Historic District for Elaine Schweitzer.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150793 0j.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for installation of a fence in the rear yard area at 2039 N. Palmer Street in the Brewers Hill Historic District for Roger Kocher.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150794 0k.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacement of deteriorated brackets on the front porch at 2124-2126 N. Sherman Blvd. in the Sherman Boulevard Historic District for Earl Wheatfall.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150795 0L.ResolutionResolution relating to a certificate of appropriateness for new handrails at the front steps at 931-933 N. 33rd Street in the Concordia Historic District for Marc and Jessica Benzakein.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150796 0m.ResolutionResolution relating to a certificate of appropriateness for a new fence at 931-933 N. 33rd Street in the Concordia Historic District for Marc and Jessica Benzakein.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150808 0n.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of 6 rooftop HVAC units at 930 W. Historic Mitchell Street in the Mitchell Street Historic District for Phoenix Mitchell, LLC.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150809 0o.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for various exterior repairs to the building at 635-637 W. Historic Mitchell Street in the Mitchell Street Historic District for Dr. Stella Moreno.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150812 0p.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a fence at 2640 N. Terrace Avenue in the North Point North Historic District for Paul and Danita Cole Medved.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150884 0q.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacement of concrete drive and rear steps, expansion of parking area, widening of rear sidewalk, and installation of a concrete patio area at 2237 N. Lake Drive in the North Point South Historic District for Blair and Stacy Williams.ADOPTEDPass4:0 Action details Not available
150886 0r.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the restoration and installation of a new boiler and vent at 2811 N. Sherman Blvd. in the Sherman Boulevard Historic District for Mamie Smith.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150889 0s.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of an air conditioning unit at 3385 N. Sherman Blvd. in the Sherman Boulevard Historic District for Alvin Anderson.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150890 0t.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacement of an air conditioning unit at 2010 E. Windsor Place, Unit B in the North Point South Historic District for Kevin Sandrok.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150891 0u.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for reroofing, constructing a new upper porch balustrade and masonry repairs to 2545 North Wahl Avenue in the North Point North Historic District for Sally Peltz and Chris Bauer.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150892 0v.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of PVC vents for a new high efficiency HVAC system at 3291 N. Sherman Blvd. in the Sherman Boulevard Historic District for Gloria Killingworth.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available
150893 0w.ResolutionResolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a new tile, asphalt and EPDM membrane roof at 2228-2230 North Terrace Avenue in the North Point South Historic District for James and Suzanne Holton.ADOPTEDPass5:0 Action details Not available